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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey! its me again. lol This time is a more easier question. I am trying to make a block checker for my bot and had a great idea. I want the bot to scan for the msn port being open on a users computer (I've seen this as a way for a block check) all i need is the users IP.

My idea is that when a new user speaks to the bot it logs thier IP so u can do a block check on them if u need to. This would only work with static IP's or when someones IP hasn't changed since they last talked.

All i need to know is how my bot can get someones IP? i know the PHP command but that dont work obviously. lol

Hope someone knows (probly most of this forum do) so please tell me Very Happy

Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
QUOTE(draget @ Apr 20 2005, 07:18 PM)
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P2P isn't really an answer draget I even doubt you know how the bot can get an IP, common just share more information how bots can get ips and how to parse it out and store it. cause theres plenty of things that are P2P that can't get a users IP.

To get a users IP you need to use something that has to connect to the user like File transfer / P2P version & regular and MSN6 games. etc. (Check hypothetic.org how to do things like that)

- Honestly the next time someone just answers a question with one word should get hit, thats just plain stupid, lazy and the waste of bandwith.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If the user is using MSN Messenger 7 then you could get the IP by DirectIM. Then again, the whole port scanning idea is just useless. That someone is using MSN Messenger on that port doesn't mean its the user your aiming for. Even more so, the local port of MSN Messenger doesn't have to be 1863, that's just the outside port. Most firewalls will block port scans and I'm not sure about how legal port scanning is.

In all, silly. Block checking has been kicked out by Microsoft. Just accept that. Everyone seems to have finally realized that. Hopefully.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The users who is logged into MSN opens a port OUTWARDS.
A scan of the users IP will never reveal an open port unless the users has some kind of service on that port, which still has nothing to do with the fact that he is on MSN or not.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
QUOTE(brother @ Apr 21 2005, 11:16 AM)
The users who is logged into MSN opens a port OUTWARDS.
A scan of the users IP will never reveal an open port unless the users has some kind of service on that port, which still has nothing to do with the fact that he is on MSN or not.
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To open a port OUTWARDS is to run a server daemon and not a client. For example, if I do a port scan on my own computer, I get results of: 21, 25, 80, and 2001 - I run servers on those ports (SMTP, FTP, and a couple HTTP's).

But where is 5050--the YMSG port--or 5190--the OSCAR port--and how is it that I can connect to two different IRC servers on port 6667 without them conflicting with eachother? I mean, if I make a connection to some remote server at 6667, then my computer must have a port open on 6667 too. And so therefore the other IRC server wouldn't be available because 6667 would already be taken by another process.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The IRC server is multi threaded, for obvious reasons. Once it has accepted a connection it moves your connection to a different localport and binds on 6667 agian. That you can connect TO 6667 multiple times ain't magic. 6667 is the outbound port. On the local computer (your) it could be anything from 0 to 32K.

Read up on sockets Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
QUOTE(Siebe @ Apr 21 2005, 03:35 PM)
The IRC server is multi threaded, for obvious reasons. Once it has accepted a connection it moves your connection to a different localport and binds on 6667 agian. That you can connect TO 6667 multiple times ain't magic. 6667 is the outbound port. On the local computer (your) it could be anything from 0 to 32K.

Read up on sockets Smile
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^^ Port scans on my computer never returned anything except for the daemons I was running. And I'm probably not all that unique. So using them to find out if somebody's on MSN or whatever they were intending to do wouldn't be the most accurate thing in the world.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I never claimed they were. I just answered your semi-question.
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