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mattaustin
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Charles, the only reason i would suggest starting with perl is because of the support this page brings. There tend to be many more perl developers on this site and lots of code samples and templates writen in perl.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe, glad someone agrees, i was expecting a barrage of angry perl'ers trying to hang, draw and quarter me Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know VB very well. I've written many things in it, including bots. I don't any more because VB is not friendly when it comes to dynamic scripting and string handling. It is not impossible, but it is not the easiest thing to do in VB.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know VB too, and one of the things I've never liked is the amount of code required to do some simple things. I've heard some good things about .NET though, and will be taking that as part of my degree later this year. At that point I'll probably start porting my bot over to it as a project and because it will let me do a few things I have in mind. hehe
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

visual basic is a barstard when it comes to string handling. And also when you are trying to create a bot it tends to run out of memory very often. Ive made my own 3 bot templates, 6 bots, msn proxy, and a few other little things for msn. Though, Visual Basic is plain english and is too easy. Thats why im considering Assembly (a.k.a ASM).. Visual basic also is easy to transfer viruses through the win32 platform. I can create a virus in 5 lines of code... :huh: .. thats why i hate vb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QUOTE(jay_see @ Jan 5 2005, 09:39 PM)
I can create a virus in 5 lines of code... :huh: .. thats why i hate vb

You can create virri with just about any programming language. Thats a bit of a ridiculous reason to not like VB.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is why i said i hate vb because you can create a virus, is because anyone can create a virus in 5 lines of coding.. That means that more viruses get around.. read the post before you criticise.. (i dont mean to be an asshole)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does not make it easier for viruses to get around. Many virri are NOT written in VB anyway, and there are likely other languages that don't take many lines to create a virus either. Your point makes no sense, viruses get around easy because people make them and idiots download them, it has nothing to do with the language being used.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And also when you are trying to create a bot it tends to run out of memory very often.


Ive never had an out of memory error, so i wouldnt say "Very often" as ive been working on my bot since last january and never had this error message.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do both Perl and VB, yet I prefer to code in Perl.
Not even because Perl can be used on multiple OS', but simply because I enjoy Perl more.
Probably because I get the feeling that the VB editor is doing all the hard work for me, especially when I'm creating a GUI.
I prefer to do some studying on the Tk modules in Perl rather than dragging and dropping a component in the VB editor.
And also, when I'm working in VB I get the feeling I'm just typing a letter, as mentioned before it looks like plain english, I don't find that challenging enough.
At least not as challenging as coding in Perl.

I guess that when I create an app in VB, creating the same program in Perl satisfies me more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why doesn't any1 put up an working msnbot template for vb??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QUOTE(cybercavia @ Jan 18 2005, 09:44 AM)
why doesn't any1 put up an working msnbot template for vb??

Because there is at least one I know of on this forum. Take your lazy self to the search button and find it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try looking around the downloads and sample stuff over at msnfanatic.com. Last time I checked they had some sample code to connect in VB. But just like (most people) here, if you ask them to write you something, they won't.
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