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jay_see
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey all! there has been some fights over which bots are better and which programming language is better to make a bot in. Id prefer visual basic, as it's based around the win32 platform. Anyway, i made a visual basic bot. It's based on the template by Kevin Pfister (IM Messiah).

Add The Bot: bot_lite@hotmail.com

If the bot is offline then it's because i am doing some construction on it. I've been working on it for 4 hours, and it's slowly coming together. It will be online tomorrow for good, so please add it, as bot lite will have a great future ahead of it.

Here are a few features below:

Perform Google Searches
Get Latest News On Demand
Talk to an AI Bot
Play Games Such As 8ball And Guess the Number!

HEAPS AND HEAPS OF FEATURES!! TOO MANY!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Id prefer visual basic, as it's based around the win32 platform.


That's exactly why I avoid VB like the plague. I can't avoid it in some of my professional work, but for my hobbies I use languages I like and are cross platform.

Or at least supported natively in my native Linux Smile

But to each his own... When do we open the Ruby, Ada, Lisp and COBOL forums?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you know how ez it is to set a virus to destory this bot? since it is based on win32 then i will persoanally leave it alone. if i had visausl basics i could make and send a viruse over the whole internet. to make one with it is sooo ez.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QUOTE(pfingy @ Jan 4 2005, 07:12 AM)
do you know how ez it is to set a virus to destory this bot?  since it is based on win32 then i will persoanally leave it alone.  if i had visausl basics i could make and send a viruse over the whole internet.  to make one with it is sooo ez.

You can make a virus using any programming language. I could make a Perl app that modifies the registry, Acme::Bleach the code so people won't know not to open it (newbies, especially), and have the registry entry keep respawning wperl for the Perl file and eat up your CPU or whatever.

So VB isn't a worse language because it's easy to make viruses in. I could make such a Perl virus in under 10 lines of code. Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*remembers not to ever open any of cers scripts again* Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAZZY! LEARN HOW TO SPELL: REMEMBER and MAINTENENCE

lol
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, ignore the poor old bot!.... Surprised
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pfingy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not gunna update Levithan for a while. lol. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basicly, to create a virus, you only need to know the basics of the language you're making it in because you can find source codes for virusses on google or any other good search engine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basicly, to create a virus, you need to know how your target's machine will work.

Making a virus is similar to hacking. For example, you can search Google and find JavaScripts that would disable Tripod.com advertisements if you're hosted with them. If you study what your free page host does to your pages, you can override or cancel out their scripts with some scripts of your own. Making a virus is similar; you know that Windows relies heavily on the registry, and that a certain list of keys are executed over and over again.

But don't worry, I don't waste my time writing malicious code. Razz

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brother
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most viruses nowadays are written using VBScripting. Not the actual compiled VB.
The reason is obvious, VBScript is supported in any windows OS on the market, it's small, doesn't need runtime modules, etc... etc...

One other thing, it's really easy to extract mailbodies and scan them for e-mail addresses using VBScript, even in as little as 4 lines of code, you can fill up some text file with a bunch of email addresses... Add another 40~50 lines for smtp communication and bang, you have a self-distributing virus.

Still, i consider these kind of viruses to be 'scriptkiddie'-stuff.

Back in the old MS-DOS days, i have been studying virii code (not to write viruses, but to examine how they work), and the good old assembler coded, self-adapting viruses were a small masterpiece... They can embed themselves into another executable, most of the time even without breaking the program, and be executed any time the program runs. They could scan your harddisk for files and determine which files were infected and which not, even when the virus itself has changed itself over time.
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